Subject	clearly you don't get it.
Posted by	Technomancer on May 04, 2004 at 9:16 AM
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In Reply To	How much more power do you want?? posted by ZisLuv on May 03, 2004 at 05:12 PM
Message	I can't make you a scientist in a single thread, I can tell. I am not demanding more and more power, as you seem to believe. I am demanding a small variance in the results you get when you install the turbos. Not only do these turbos have a large variance in results (thus far) but also there is still a trend in the results over time. They are simply still in the experimental phase. Some people are not early adaptors, for instance most people that ask for advice (as DARK HORSE did) rather than doing their own research. It is fine for you personally to be an early adaptor, but a little unfair to withold information on the newness of the PE1420 setup from somebody seeking advice. (His "mileage might vary"...hugely.) MY answer to "What do you recommend?" is "A setup that is mature." Perhaps you could also exhibit some maturity and accept that reasonable people can have differing opinions given the same information. - John
Follow Ups	JWT 500, 530BB OR 600? $$ IS NOT THE ISSUE, what do you - DARK KNIGHT 11:48:12 05/02/04 If $$ is not the issue, why not throw 700 in there? - RAGTPZ(OH) 11:58:33 05/02/04 We would need more feedback. - Carlos Ramirez 11:59:42 05/02/04 isnt the question what to do with the stock oem turbos? - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 12:57:12 05/02/04 Personally, I'd do the 530BBs if money isn't an issue - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 13:05:27 05/02/04 i have a different opinoin based on personal experiences - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 13:33:02 05/02/04 Just a couple notes...... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 13:58:13 05/02/04 Well said *golf clap* :) (n/m) - Ravin 14:58:04 05/02/04 Cams are rarely discussed in relation to turbo selection.... - RSR 16:23:41 05/02/04 2nd (n/m) - Spee 16:35:06 05/02/04 I agree about the pump fuel or poorly tuned cars statement (n/m) - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 16:48:08 05/02/04 wow...i killed my engine both ways you mentioned... - CaptanZap 20:34:08 05/02/04 He did say cost wasn't an issue though and think about this - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 14:16:19 05/02/04 Thanks 4 the input guys! I plan on going with... - DARK KNIGHT 14:40:35 05/02/04 Whichever turbo you do end up going with make sure you - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 14:49:31 05/02/04 are test pipes legal for street use? my car only 4 street. (n/m) - DARK KNIGHT 15:06:51 05/02/04 not at all (n/m) - hey GotBo0st 15:29:40 05/02/04 then what else can i use together w/ 530bb & dwnpipes? (n/m) - DARK KNIGHT 15:33:08 05/02/04 You'll melt stock cats eventually with that heat - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 15:56:29 05/02/04 i never read that before?! is that true, ever happen 2 ne1? (n/m) - DARK KNIGHT 16:11:47 05/02/04 that brings up an interesting point - fourZero 16:26:58 05/02/04 I was a bit worried about that when I installed my DPs and - Spee 16:42:08 05/02/04 Re: that brings up an interesting point - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:59:41 05/02/04 Thousands of people have down pipes and test pipes on Z32's - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:56:17 05/02/04 thanks for the info, Greg (n/m) - fourZero 19:59:23 05/02/04 Hey Ryan......Bad info :) Larger turbos and down pipes - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:51:08 05/02/04 Really? My neighbor with a single turbo RX-7 always - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 21:50:46 05/02/04 why spend the extra money for the sport 535bb when - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 16:58:01 05/02/04 Question... - silverZman 15:11:22 05/02/04 Good point - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 15:57:00 05/02/04 a larger turbo will have be more efficient at the same - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 16:55:30 05/02/04 I can assure you that the 27psi you're talking about - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 17:15:13 05/02/04 um... maybe but? - silverZman 23:46:33 05/02/04 the air temperature plays a roll ..the smaller turbo works - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 09:41:34 05/03/04 I understand the turbos perfectly fine... - silverZman 13:40:28 05/03/04 Temp. plays a bigger role than boost - Chip(GMS Racing) 14:10:05 05/03/04 thank you chip!!! - silverZman 01:33:38 05/04/04 I bought ranchz's "used" 530's, and I'm glad I did - robo (sebring1970) 06:52:48 05/03/04 robo - for the price u got them --i'd get them over the - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 09:44:48 05/03/04 Speedy can you please be more specific for me.. - kx12577 16:13:26 05/02/04 who is Speedy? (n/m) - Spee 16:43:26 05/02/04 Sorry Internet Warrior, I meant to say SeedyRom. (n/m) - kx12577 16:58:20 05/02/04 oh ok. procede as planned. (n/m) - Spee 17:42:34 05/02/04 ehmm how exactly does one 'procede'? (n/m) - DutchZX 19:19:03 05/02/04 hehe PWNED! (n/m) - TARGETZ 19:59:53 05/02/04 much like they would proceed... - Spee 20:06:37 05/02/04 hahahaha spee got told (n/m) - silverZman 23:49:24 05/02/04 frank --i'm gonna let u drive my car tonite for your - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 16:53:32 05/02/04 It's all in Search and has been posted many times =) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 17:12:27 05/02/04 Yes, I have searched, but the link that you have - kx12577 20:16:21 05/02/04 omg, I'm not reading all that. - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 21:36:00 05/02/04 If you want 500 rwhp on pump gas, you need big turbos - Chip(GMS Racing) 23:11:47 05/02/04 I dont know Chip.... - ZisLuv 10:58:13 05/03/04 I am generalizing. - Chip(GMS Racing) 14:05:03 05/03/04 Dude what are you talking about ? - silverZman 23:53:36 05/02/04 I would not count on them doing over 500 rwhp. - Chip(GMS Racing) 21:28:32 05/02/04 Sorry bro, each that has come out of the shop has done it - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 21:49:17 05/02/04 That is still only 1 over 500 rwhp. - Chip(GMS Racing) 22:38:43 05/02/04 We are always looking for good stock cores because the - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:13:24 05/02/04 hey, on a turbo core related note: - dogpile 14:32:25 05/02/04 heat is what causes you to not be able to drill. - cshell 14:40:40 05/02/04 been there, didnt work - dogpile 14:46:51 05/02/04 Some broken bolts/studs will not come out. - Chip(GMS Racing) 23:13:51 05/02/04 yea, thats what i figured. thanks for the heads up (n/m) - dogpile 09:36:45 05/03/04 Why doesn't anyone ever have PE as a recomendation? - SuparexTT 18:11:14 05/02/04 I guess because they have no history of success yet (n/m) - Technomancer 10:01:55 05/03/04 What on earth are you talking about? - ZisLuv 10:41:19 05/03/04 let's see: a handful of people with them, all w/in the past - Technomancer 10:51:29 05/03/04 As I said... - ZisLuv 11:08:54 05/03/04 How about "no *stable* history of success"? - Technomancer 11:27:02 05/03/04 No history of failure either. - Chip(GMS Racing) 14:02:30 05/03/04 absolutely true - Technomancer 14:13:29 05/03/04 How much more power do you want?? - ZisLuv 17:12:19 05/03/04 clearly you don't get it. - Technomancer 09:16:09 05/04/04 No clearly I understand... - ZisLuv 18:16:00 05/04/04 could you please prove it then? - Technomancer 08:43:01 05/05/04
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